Creator of groundbreaking "UFO patents" explains inventions in rare interview

During a very thorough and engaging two-hour interview with Curt Jaimungal on his channel “Theories of Everything,” Dr. Pais laid out the main principles of his work, shared a few details about his life, and addressed his critics.

What inspired him

Dr. Pais doesn’t claim to be a physicist, describing himself rather as an engineer while demonstrating a strong grasp of many physics concepts during the podcast. He revealed that the initial inspiration for his Ideas was his fascination with “the heavy side version of Maxwell’s equations.”

Maxwell’s equations, derived by the Scottish physicist and mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, describe the fundamentals of electricity and magnetism. They speak of the behavior of and the relationship between electric and magnetic fields.

Pais’s rumination over these equations led to the discovery of the so-called “Pais Effect”.

The Pais Effect

The phenomenon dubbed the “Pais Effect” is at the center of Pais’s inventions. For them to work, the effect must be proven to be real.

As he described it in the interview and his papers, the effect is the “controlled motion of electrically-charged matter from solids to plasma states subjected to accelerated vibration and/or accelerated spin via rapid acceleration transients.” In other words, the effect gives the ability of spin electromagnetic fields to contain a fusion reaction.

How the craft would work

While he kept mum on some key details and expressed the need for secrecy, Dr. Pais revealed some details of how one of the most tantalizing of his patents would work — the UFO-like craft with a revolutionary propulsion system that would travel as easily through space as it would through water and Earth’s atmosphere.

The craft, explained Dr. Pais, would feature microwave emitters on its body. These would generate high-frequency vibration of the xenon plasma inside the walls of the craft. Plasma, the 4th state of matter, is an incredible substance, says Pais, who dubs it “quite possibly the bridge to quintessence”.

By affecting the electrically-charged outer wall of the craft, the emitters would make it resonate and induce frequencies necessary to achieve the Schwinger effect, a predicted physical phenomenon in which a strong electric field creates and which Pais claims would lead to quantum electrodynamic vacuum break down.

This will theoretically create discontinuities in the spacetime continuum in the proximity of the craft, so-called “voids” that the craft would be “sucked into”. The process would facilitate the movement of the inertially-reduced craft, which would then be steered by utilizing these voids.

Interestingly, in what he called “hyper speculation”, Pais said he believes the many UFO sightings could reflect some plasma-powered probes. He thinks the descriptions of how such crafts move reflects how he believes his plasma-based vehicle would operate.

The "UFO patents"

Dr. Pais addressed that his patents were dubbed “UFO patents” by the media largely because of the UFO-like craft Dr. Pais proposed. As we found out in the interview, he very much disliked this kind of name and attention. He would rather be taken seriously for his ideas and not be seen as some kind of “crackpot” or “charlatan” as some in the mainstream physics community portray him.

Indeed, upon an introduction to his work, some scientists, like the nuclear engineer and researcher Carl Willis, who has expertise in the area of Dr. Pais's patents, called them "a classic case of pathological science" that's chockfull of ”nonsensical statements,” Suffice to say, Willis was not bullish on whether Pais's ideas could bear fruit.

But Dr. Pais thinks his work is ultimately a “new perspective on old physics,” offering new interpretations of existing knowledge that can lead to great technological breakthroughs.

As such, he would much prefer to move beyond the sensationalizing treatment by the media and have his ideas stand on their own as legitimate science.

“It was incredibly hard to get my ideas peer-reviewed,” shared Pais with Curt Jaimungal. He was quickly rejected by various scientific publications. He thinks no one believes that such high-energies can be achieved, that there’s no way to manipulate the spacetime continuum or engage the quantum vacuum. Obviously, he has a different take on it.

Because he had such a difficult time getting his work published, he decided to go a different route and submit patent applications through the Navy. It was a very arduous process, requiring much explanation and presentation to the “invention evaluation board”, staffed by PhDs in quantum physics, electrical and aerospace engineering. “These are no lightweights,” described them Pais.

The patents he applied for included a room temperate superconductor, a high-frequency gravitational wave generator, a craft using an inertia mass reduction device, a high-energy electromagnetic field generator, and a plasma compression fusion device.

“It’s extremely hard for people to accept a new idea — that is the bottom line,” lamented Pais.

After a series of reviews, explanations, and appeals, the patents were eventually accepted.

Are the patents just a bluff?

Referring to the conspiracy theories floated about his ideas, Dr. Pais addressed the question of whether his patents are just disinformation, there to force America’s rivals, like China or Russia, to spend money on trying to make them work, or by showing America’s supposed cutting-edge physics and weapons developments.

“Absolutely not,” affirmed Pais, “They are not a bluff.” If you look closely, the physics are correct, he maintains.

Pais spoke about the fact that James Sheehy, Naval Aviation Enterprise Chief Technology Officer, labeled his patents “operable,” causing the internet’s collective gasp. “These are the terms he used,” explained Pais, “and I’m not quite sure exactly what he meant”. But he maintains that since physics works, so will his patents.

Was he able to test it? Somewhat cheekily, Dr. Pais maintained that there’s no craft out there using the Pais effect at this point. He did conduct experiments that so far did not provide the 1 Coulomb charge he claims is necessary for the effect to work.

Ultimately, Dr. Pais believes it is possible to achieve his effect, but with plasmas rather than solids. How exactly to make it a reality, Dr. Pais would not divulge, saying it would represent an issue of national security. “Sir, I’m a patriot,” he assured the interviewer Jaimungal.

What's next?

Having enough detractors, Pais said it’s important to see if his work is experimentally feasible. Because of the criticism, he stopped reading everything that’s been written about him. He argues that experimentation is the best way to see whether the Pais effect does occur.

How much money and time would it take to produce this effect physically? Pais shared that, ultimately, now his work is part of the federal government, and he’s not really a budget cruncher. He’s happy his work ended up with the Navy, which can now produce something amazing without being charged by private patent-holders.

He claimed he accepted no royalties for these patents and he filed them out of pure patriotic duty.

Notably, while it was known that Dr. Pais has a doctorate from Case Western University, he revealed that he was born in Romania and came to the U.S. when he was 13 and a half years old. He shared that he’s religious and often prays to “strengthen” himself, and in what was another unknown — he apparently now works for the US Space Force.